Saturday, November 8, 2008

November 4th, 2008

The 2008 McCain/Obama is a historical election. It was as many people said "a time for change". Not only would this election be remarkable because of the candidates (1st female Vice-President and 1st black President), but also because of the amount of people who would get involved in this election as far as voting.

Working the polls is something is not any type of knowledge which can be read about. The only way to really understand is to experience. There are many people who should not be voting, as well as those who are going out of their reach to vote. Election day is not only special because people can choose, but because just about any United States Resident that is over the age of 18 is eligible to vote.

For most, the day would begin as usual. This meant, setting up all the tables, unpacking the ballots, machines, and other variou supplies that each precinct was given. Tables were filled, signs were posted, poll were tags were handed out, and finally the doors were opened and the flag was put up: "The polls are now open". For some voters, this was just what they needed to hear as they grew impatient standing in line. The first person came in to vote, filled out his ballot, verified the ballot box was empty and then submitted his ballot. The first person to vote at any precinct is usually one who is eager to vote, and in this case was also in a very good mood. The next few voters followed, one who thought it would be funny to shout about how she should be able to keep the "cheap $1 pen" which she had used to fill out her ballot. Due to the way in which the woman spoke, this did not come off as a joke. Similar "acting skills" seemed to be observed at other various times of the day, though these random intervals were not acting, but sheer stupidity; or moments that gave reason as to how remarkable this particular election was. People of all ages came out this very November 4th. From a young student who had just turned 18 years old days before, all the way to an elderly woman at the age of 97. Two women, one a student asking to make sure she had correctly filled out her ballot, and the second, an elderly woman asking her daughter to read aloud the paper ballot. Though very different in age, and abilities, the two women shared something that could easily be observed throughout most of this very day. There was a great sense of pride that was shared, each recognized that as Americans they had the opportunity to voice their opinion.

Unfortunately not everybody shared this sense of pride, and ultimately had no clue as to what they were doing, but for some reason did know something big was happening. One 58 year old woman, was for the first time in her life voting. For others this was not the first time, but just an election they were anxious about. Regardless, this particular group of people was for the most part, not very well informed on what the issues. Some less knowledgeable than others, but all candidates at this particular precinct seemed to have it together pretty well. The day went on. For the poll workers this included greeting people, and then signing them in. Once voters were signed in, they moved on to the next table where students working the polls handed out ballots and voting cards. Activating the electronic voting card was very quick, and required little effort. On the other hand, the paper ballots were just as easy, but a bit more time consuming. The solution to this was to take out one pack of 25 ballots, and to tear both pages of the ballot off, fold the tab which voters would later take home, and then lay each ballot atop each other and slightly off set so they could be pulled from bottom to top easily, while still maintaining numerical order. Not streamlined the handing out of ballots, but it also allowed the students to assist voters who had any questions about filling out the ballot or obtaining a new ballot after they skipped the instructions.

It also allowed the student poll works to help voters understand what a provisional vote was, and how to cast a provisional vote. This meant explaining that it is of equal value to a regular ballot, and asking each person that they have filled out the envelop they put their ballot in before slipping it into the blue ballot bag. In one case it even meant reading each line on the envelope to a woman who had left her reading glasses at home. It was an easy job, but just a bit annoying due to the uniform process of explaining the same thing over and over for every person who had a provisional vote.

Eventually it was time for lunch, the polls remained open, but at this precinct did not flood in with those using their lunch break to vote. Each poll worker took their lunch, and the day continued, and eventually turned to night. Finally, at night people filled the room, breaking the dead silence, and pushing ballot numbers just under 1,000. One by one, each voter slowly came in and cast their vote. Most by paper ballot, some electronically, but all by 8. Counting the ballots did not take long, but was not all there was to do. The last thing was to pack everything up, and finally put the yellow ties back on the Sequoia AVC Edge Voting Machines.

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Saturday, October 25, 2008

Article. I. - The Legislative Branch Note

Anything in parenthesis has been amended, the text in the block-quotes are the original pieces of Article 1.

Section 1 - The Legislature
All law given making powers will go to the Congress of the United States, Congress is to be made of a Senate and House of Representatives.

"All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."


Section 2 - The House
The House of Representatives will be made up of Members who are elected every two Years by the People of the several State, the people who elect the Representatives must meet the requirement for being an elector.

Nobody under the age of twenty-five can be a Representative, they must also have been a United States Citizen for at least seven years, and when they are elected, they cannot be living in the state they are elected to represent.

(Representatives and direct Taxes will be divided among several States which may be part of the United states, the amount of taxes and representatives given to each state will be determined by population when adding the total number of free people, even those in the military, but excluding the Indians who are not taxed, and counting any other person who three fifths.) The actual count will be made within the first three years after the first meeting held by Congress, and then every ten years after that first initial count, these counts will by law be held in any style as directed by those counting.

In the case that a state for whatever reason needs another representative, they Executive Authority will give the rights to elect someone to fill that position as representative.
The House of Representatives will choose their Speaker and other Officers; as well as have the power to impeach the those chosen.

"The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

(Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.) (The previous sentence in parentheses was modified by the 14th Amendment, section 2.) The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."


Section 3 - The Senate
The Senate will be made up of two Senators from each state, (that are chosen by the Legislature) they will remain Senator for six years, and are given one vote during any type of decision or election.

Immediately after a person is elected Senator they will be put into the third of three Classes which compose the Senate, the Classes are equally divided as best as possible, the first Class will be up for election after two years, the second after four years, and the third after six years, this is done so that the one third of the Senate is up for election every two years; (in the case that a Senator resigns, during the vacation of any person hold an office in State Legislature, the Executive may Appoint them to the temporary position of a Senator until the next time the Legislature meets.

Nobody under the age of thirty can be a Senator, they must also have been a United States Citizen for at least seven years, and when they are elected, they cannot be living in the state they are elected to represent.

The Vice-President of the Untied States will be the President of the Senate, but have do not get any vote in the Senate unless they are put into one of the three Classes of the Senate.
The Senate will choose their Officer, and also a President pro tempore, the President pro tempore will assume the position of the President of the Senate in the absence of the Vice-President, or when the Vice-Preisent is filling in for the President.

Only the Senate has the power to try all impeachments During an impeachment, the Senate is under Oath. When the President of the United States is going through impeachment, the Chief Justice is in charge, and nobody can be convicted and actually thrown out of office without the majority rule of at least two-thirds of the Senate.

The worst punishment anybody impeached can receive is to be removed from office, and disqualified to hold and enjoy any other Office of honor, Trust of Profit under the United States: however this is no way keeps them from the possibility of Indictment, Trial, Judgement, and Punishment or other appropriate punishments according to Law.

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, (chosen by the Legislature thereof,) (The preceding words in parentheses superseded by 17th Amendment, section 1.) for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; (and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.) (The preceding words in parentheses were superseded by the 17th Amendment, section 2.)

No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."


Section 4 - Elections, Meetings
The time and location where the elections for Senators and Representatives are held will be decided by the Legislature of each State; but the Congress has the power to at any time alter these details, except for the location where the Senators are elected.

The Congress will meet at least once every Year, (the first Monday in December) unless they Lawfully choose a different day.

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall (be on the first Monday in December,) (The preceding words in parentheses were superseded by the 20th Amendment, section 2.) unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day."


Section 5 - Membership, Rules, Journals, Adjournment
The Senate and House of Representatives will be the judge of the Elections, and any Qualifications of their own members, each House will use majority rule to decide what will be the minimum amount of people required in order to do any business will be; but there will also be a smaller number that is the amount of people who can be absent from day to day, as well as sometimes do something about the Attendance of absent Members, in some way, such as to be given a Penalty according to the House they work in.

Each House can choose how they want to run things, and how Members should be punished for misbehaving, and as long as there is a two-thirds majority vote, even go so far as to expelling a Member from their House.

Each House will keep of Journal of everything that happens, and from time to time publish this journal as it is, except for anything that is Judged as something that should be kept in Secrecy; any decision that a Member makes about a question, may with the choice of at least one-fifth of those Present, can be entered into this Journal which can be published.

Neither the House of Representatives or the Senate, during a Session of Congress, will, without the Consent of the other, delay or in any avoid finishing the Session for more than three days, or continue in any other Place where both Houses will be present.

"Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting."


Section 6 - Compensation
(The Senators and Representatives will be paid by taking money from the Treasury of the United States.) No matter what the Case, except for Treason, Felony, and disturbing the Peace, a member of any House cannot be Arrested while they are are in the middle of a Session at their House, or going to and returning from the a Session at their House; at any Speech or Debate in either House, the Senators and Representatives shall not be questioned even if the Speech or Debate is held in a different Place other than the House of Representatives or House.

Neither Senators or Representatives can, during the Time they hold the position they were elected for, be appointed for a second government job that is under the Authority of the Untied States, otherwise the pay will be increased for working in both positions; and no Person working for the United States government, will be able to work as a Member of the House of Representatives or Senate will they still work in their other government Office.

"(The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.) (The preceding words in parentheses were modified by the 27th Amendment.) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office."


Section 7 - Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto
Only the House of Representatives can create bills to raise Revenue; but the Senate can choose to agree or disagree with any of the Amendments from the House of Representatives the same way they would any other Bill.

Every Bill that passes through the House of Representatives and the Senate, will, before it becomes a Law, also be presented to the President of the United States; if he approves of this Bill he needs to sign it, but if not he has to return it, with his Objections to the House that came up with the Bill, who will then record any of those Objections into the Journal of the House. After the Bill is Reconsidered and modified and two-thirds of the House agrees to pass the Bill, it will then be sent, revised but with all the Objections, to the other House, where it will be reconsidered, and if two-thirds of that House passes the Bill, it will become a Law. In every Case, the Votes made by the Members of the House will be determined by if they agree or not, and the Names of the people who are for and against the Bill will be recorded in the Journal of the House each Member belongs to. If any Bills passed and presented to the President of the United States are not returned to the House within ten Day -Not counting Sundays- , it will become a Law, just the same way as if the President of the United States were actually to have signed it, the only exception is if the Congress has decided to hold onto the Bill to prevent it from being Returned, if this happens the Bill will not be turned into a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote that the Senate and House of Representatives need to agree on -except questions about taking breaks during a Session- will be presented to the President of the United States; and before it takes Effect, will be approved by the President of the United States, or if disapproved, then re-passed by getting two-thirds majority of both the Senate and House of Representatives to vote for the Bill, as long as the bill meets all the Rules and Limitations required that are given in the Case of a Bill.

"All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two-thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two-thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill."


Section 8 - Powers of Congress
Congress has the Power To:

Lay and collect Taxes, Duties, required taxes or fees and taxes on materials that the whole country has, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general opportunity for prosperity that is offered by the United States; but all Duties, required taxes or fees and taxes on materials that the whole country has will be the same throughout the United States;
Borrow money on the credit of the United States;

Regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Coin or print Money, determine how much it is worth, and the exchange rate for foreign money, as well as say what Standards of weights and Measurements will be used.

Provide for the Punishment of creating fake loans and money of the United States;

Establish Post Offices and deliver routes;

Promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by offering Copyrights that will last for a given limited amount of Time;

Constitute smaller Courts that are not as important as the supreme Court;

Define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

Declare War, grant proposals of war for a valid reason and attacking back for a single incident before entering war, and creating Rules about Captures on Land and Water;

Raise and support Armies, but no assets or money from this will be spent on the same exact thing for more than two consecutive years;

Provide and maintain a Navy;

Make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

Provide the resources that the Military needs to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Military, and to control their life to the extent that they are Serving for the United States Military, sending those Serving to the States where they are needed, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Military according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Be the only people who can create Laws, in a District like Washington D.C. -but in a District that is not over ten square miles- that meets that requirement, by giving up rights of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to have and use the same power over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State just as, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

Make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."


Section 9 - Limits on Congress
Congress cannot:

Limit anybody which the States agree is suitable to emigrate into the Union, and those who do emigrate cannot be prohibited by the Congress before the year 1808, but there may be tax for emigrating, but it cannot be more than ten dollars for each Person who emigrates into the Union.

The privilege to prosecute without justification shall not be taken away, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

Create Bill that takes away Civil Rights or is convicts for something that has previously occurred shall be passed and turned into a Law.

(No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in it goes along with the Census or count herein before directed to be taken.)

Make a Tax or Duty to be laid on Articles exported from any State.

States cannot be favored in any way over another State: nor shall Vessels that belong to, or are from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, unless it is ordered or required by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money will be published from time to time.

Deem any Person noble by the United States just because they were born into a certain family or wealth: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, will, without the Consent of the Congress, accept any present, pay, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

(No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.) (Section in parentheses clarified by the 16th Amendment.)

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State."


Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant proposals of war for a valid reason and attacking back for a single incident before entering war; coin Money; eliminate unpaid bills or loans; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill that takes away Civil Rights or is convicts for something that has previously occurred, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any taxes or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing its inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and taxes, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Control of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

"No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

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Monday, October 6, 2008

Vice President Debate 2008

The vice presidential debate is something that I really looked forward to watching/hearing/reading. This is almost as interesting as the actual ballot casting itself. Both candidates are somewhat unheard of. Biden has the popular vote, but Palin has a more obvious history of actually getting things done. Both candidates have an opportunity, but they each are coming in with a very different background.



"Darn right it was the predator lenders, who tried to talk Americans into thinking that it was smart to buy a $300,000 house if we could only afford a $100,000 house. There was deception there, and there was greed and there is corruption on Wall Street. And we need to stop that...Let's do what our parents told us before we probably even got that first credit card. Don't live outside of our means. We need to make sure that as individuals we're taking personal responsibility through all of this. It's not the American peoples fault that the economy is hurting like it is, but we have an opportunity to learn a heck of a lot of good lessons through this and say never again will we be taken advantage of." -Palin

As great of an answer this was, it was not completely right, sure there was deceit, and it is hard for people to sometimes see it. Given, it is, to some extent, the American peoples fault that the economy is hurting us like this. The economy is shaped by the Americans for the most part. However, Americans are not at fault of the lower, not low, economy, just in the same way we are effected by global warming. These things are things that naturally happen, but can be affected by those who are effected, we have to deal with it, but can in many ways, make things a little easier to deal with. Technically the economy is not down (as of this debate), but it was just lower than it previously was (which was noticeably high). What is odd in all of this is that the value of the American dollar has improved.

"Number two, with regard to bankruptcy now, Gwen, what we should be doing now -- and Barack Obama and I support it -- we should be allowing bankruptcy courts to be able to re-adjust not just the interest rate you're paying on your mortgage to be able to stay in your home, but be able to adjust the principal that you owe, the principal that you owe." -Biden

This sounds great in theory, but will probably not be that wise of an idea when it is fulfilled. People need to experience their consequences. I think that it is a good idea to lower the interest rates as a way to teach responsibility while still allowing people to in a way suffer slightly for their stupid actions. If we lower the principal debt, we are not teaching responsibility, but giving a break for stupidity, and in a away giving the message that we will pay for your mistakes, literally. People need to face what they did, but definitely in a much more reasonably manner with lower interest rates.

"But in that tolerance also, no one would ever propose, not in a McCain-Palin administration, to do anything to prohibit, say, visitations in a hospital or contracts being signed, negotiated between parties." -Palin

While both canidates support the rights of those in non-traditional marriages, I got the idea that Biden did not just tolerate, but almost embraced these marriages because he had no response in agreement when Palin said
"But I will tell Americans straight up that I don't support defining marriage as anything but between one man and one woman, and I think through nuances we can go round and round about what that actually means."

As much as I like the way this came off, I think that Palin should have used other words than "straight up", possibly "very direct".

"Barack Obama offered a clear plan. Shift responsibility to Iraqis over the next 16 months." -Biden

This would not be a very good idea at all, look at what happened when we shifted power back to Afghanistan, even Obama realized that now we need to go back to reestablish our work in Afghanistan.

"John McCain has been dead wrong. I love him. As my mother would say, god love him, but he's been dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to the conduct of the war. Barack Obama has been right. There are the facts." -Biden

Very dangerous road, this is obviously a bad thing to say no matter how you rearrange the words, or no matter who is to say this. Both candidates have been very wrong on particular issues, and had their share of good ideas, but neither "has been right." There are the facts!

"You also said that Barack Obama was not ready to be commander in chief. And I know again that you opposed the move he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that. I don't know how you can defend that position now but I know that you know especially with your son in the National Guard and I have great respect for your family also and the honor that you show our military. Barack Obama though, another story there. Anyone I think who can cut off funding for the troops after promising not to is another story." -Palin

I really like the fact that there has already been conflict with Obama and Biden, and that Biden did not just agree with Obama because it was his party, instead he did what was best, not popular.

"I think the American public has the stomach for success. My recommendations on Bosnia. I admit I was the first one to recommend it. They saved tens of thousands of lives. And initially John McCain opposed it along with a lot of other people. But the end result was it worked. Look what we did in Bosnia. We took Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks, being told by everyone, I was told by everyone that this would mean that they had been killing each other for a thousand years, it would never work." -Biden

Just because it worked, it did not mean it was successful, I am personally not to sure on this specific issue, but often, many people assume that just because something works, it is good or excellent.

"John McCain knows how to win a war"-Palin

John McCain may have fought in the war, and have been a POW, but regardless, it does not mean he knows how to win a war. Participation is not mastery, and under any circumstance, we cannot just choose a soldier and say they know how to win a war because they have fought in the war.

"Can I respond? Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie's Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years. And then ask them whether there's a single major initiative that John McCain differs with the president on. On taxes, on Iraq, on Afghanistan, on the whole question of how to help education, on the dealing with health care." -Biden

First of all I really like the idea of learning about Biden or Palin for that matter by meeting the people who know them best. The problem is that often this does not reflect their policy as most presidents or vice presidents are normal people besides their job. I do not think that Biden was trying to imply this idea in any way, however I do not agree with the idea he was trying to make...completely. I am not so sure that the survey of one town, especially the one which Biden is most likely to be influenced by, is the best way to evaluate an idea or study. Its not that great of an idea to form a theory, and then go back and test or challenge that theory on whatever it was that brought about the creation of that theory.

"People aren't looking for more of the same. They are looking for change. And John McCain has been the consummate maverick in the Senate over all these years."
"He's taken shots left and right from the other party and from within his own party, because he's had to take on his own party when the time was right, when he recognized it was time to put partisanship aside and just do what was right for the American people. That's what I've done as governor, also, take on my own party, when I had to, and work with both sides of the aisle, in my cabinet, appointing those who would serve regardless of party, Democrats, independents, Republicans, whatever it took to get the job done." -Palin

What Palin needed to say is, "because he's had to take on his own party when _______."..."That's what I've done as governor, also, take on my own party, when I had to _______." Palin should have just given an example of how she took her stand, and how McCain has taken his stand (against a popular vote or partisanship based bill). Palin clearly knows how to do this as she recognized Biden for doing such a thing earlier in the debate.

Both parties generally did well, but Palin was a little asier to understand by just listening to and not having to read the transcripts. The best line had to be that of Ifill said "Governor, Senator, neither of you really answered that last question about what you would do as vice president. I'm going to come back to that..." What I did like about both canidates ist that they recognized the other party for what they did well.

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